Joining me today on the podcast is Georgetown Law Professor, Paul Butler. As you may recall, Paul joined me on the day we launched Crime Story to offer his perspective on my interview with Attorney General William Barr.

Professor Butler is the author of the widely lauded books “Let’s Get Free: A Hip-Hop Theory of Justice,” and “Chokehold: Policing Black Men.”

Paul is also one of the nation’s most frequently consulted scholars on issues of race and criminal justice. Prior to becoming a professor, Butler served as a federal prosecutor with the U.S. Department of Justice. 

On today’s podcast Paul and I revisit my interview with the Attorney General with the additional perspective of 10 eventful weeks behind us. We also discuss the societal questions raised by the police shootings in Texas. And we begin to examine Professor Butler’s work in the context of his own life experience and in the context of the movement to completely transform the criminal legal process.

You can find a transcript of this interview here. You can find my interview with Attorney General Barr here. And you can find my first interview with Paul Butler here.